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  1. Some other great books that I would recommend are the following:

    The Gift of Fear: And Other Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence Mass Market Paperback – by Gavin de Becker. This is what it says about him: Gavin de Becker is a three-time presidential appointee whose pioneering work has changed the way our government evaluates threats to our nation’s highest officials. His firm advises many of the world’s most prominent media figures, corporations, and law enforcement agencies on predicting violence, and it also serves regular citizens who are victims of domestic abuse and stalking. De Becker has advised the prosecution on major cases, including the O.J. Simpson murder trial. He has testified before many legislative bodies and has successfully proposed new laws to help manage violence.

    In Sheep’s Clothing: Understanding and Dealing with Manipulative People Paperback – April 1, 2010–by Dr. George K. Simon Ph.D. This is a great book about manipulative people that I keep on my bookshelf for reference. He also has a website and videos on youtube.

    Emotional Blackmail: When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation, and Guilt to Manipulate You – by Susan Forward.

    I wish more people would read books to learn to self-protect.

  2. Have you heard of or read the book, Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us. The author is Robert D. Hare who is a Canadian forensic psychologist known for his research in the field of criminal psychology. He’s authored several books including Snakes in Suits and many others. He also has a website.

    This is a timely post as I also have an interest in the topic and psychology given my own experiences. I had unfortunate experiences at a very young age. I think it important for people to learn self-protection strategies. Also someone I’m close too had to serve as a juror at a murder trial.

  3. Please do a book review after you are finished reading it. I don’t think I can read it myself. I’m too much of a scaredy cat. But I’m interested to know some of the red flags.

  4. That is confusing and interesting at the same time Brenda! That’s why I’m cautious when I talk to ppl I don’t know.
    A few days ago I went grocery shopping and while I was online I was talking to a older guy in back of me. While I was waiting for my daughter to come pick me up that guy sat in his truck watching me! The store was closing so one of the guys that work there stayed there talking to me til my daughter came! That was creepy!

  5. I have no idea as to the intellect…the IQ on these people, but the ones we have had contact with definitely are smarter than average…like way smart, as in jobs like engineering etc…and the striking thing to us is, they say they have no feelings…one way or another…yet we saw anger and rage…so apparently they do feel that one. We think in our situation, it was the choices of the parents that most likely led to this…in fact, we wonder about whether maybe even incest was part of it…and from what the public sees, there is a big lack of observing any boundaries. These parents even worked in the field of counseling…if you can imagine!! It just blows our minds!! But I guess if your goal in life is to use others, manipulate them, etc etc perhaps one can learn more ways to do that in the field of counseling?? I doubt any family is able to see this minefield in time to avoid disaster (like marriage to them). But maybe in your sharing, Brenda, it may help others to avoid what has happened to us. Thank you!!

    1. I’ve kind of learned that the most screwed up people tend to go into fields like counseling. Guess they think they’ll fix themselves. I was married to a psychiatrist, and boy was he messed up.

      1. Yes indeed, you also have first hand experience with these kooks!! Their extreme desire to CONTROL others is beyond belief…something I simply cannot understand…

      2. I had experiences with counselors that were not so good. I’ve had good experiences as well, so for me it’s a mixed bag. I do believe there are good psychiatrists and psychologists out there and I know that many people enter the profession with the desire to help others. Sad to say that it’s like many professions where you’ll find that some people are much better than others or a better fit for you personally. I will say that after a few bad experiences that I won’t get into here it took me some time before I reconsidered or was even able to try again. I do think that it can be helpful for many people.

  6. This is so interesting! This might explain some of the the school, mall and store shootings. Most of the shooters are so young. It would be interesting to know if it is one of these mental disorders or if some are done because of the times. So many people seem to think that if things don’t go their way it is ok to use violence.

    1. You’re right. There’s so much violence because of people who have grievances or feel disenfranchised.

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